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Re: [vps-mail] !nouser problems
- Subject: Re: [vps-mail] !nouser problems
- From: Godwin Stewart <gstewart@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:13:59 +0100
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:15:54 +0100, "Andy McKell, FOCUS Internet"
<mac@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I've been considering the practicalities of your website briefing
It isn't *my* website. I'm just a (happy) SpamCop client, hence the
spamcop.net e-mail address.
> 1. If an online order is placed or someone asks to sign up for a mailing
> list, the provider may send an email asking for confirmation or sending
> a password. If a fake email address is used and the recipient complains
> to SpamCop - is this spam? Aren't the provider's intentions clear - i.e.
> asking for confirmation to avoid the email address being misused?
ONE misdirected e-mail will not cause the sender to be listed. It takes
more than one misdirected mail and complaints from more than one person for
that to happen. So, this scenario will not result in the server being
listed through the rare occurrance of someone mistyping their e-mail
address.
> 2. If I go on vacation, I can no longer use a nice autoreply with a warm,
> commercially-sensitive and informative message, but must use:-
> to:oldaddress@xxxxxxxxxxx 550 my message
Correct.
If your server receives, say, 100 spams a day, it will be sending out 100
"I'm on vacation" messages to people who didn't request them or even know
you exist. It's bulk and it's unsolicited, therefore it's spam in most
non-spammers' books.
Obviously your rules apply to your server and you're perfectly entitled to
use an autospam^W autoresponder on it if you like. But if you do, you must
also accept that other people's rules apply to *their* servers, and they're
perfectly entitled to block you if they receive a misdirected bounce (and
entirely justified in doing so IMO).
Spam is a far greater problem than it used to be, say, 5 years ago. It
accounts for roughly 90% of all mails floating around the 'Net nowadays and
it explains why mail admins' trigger fingers are getting twitchier by the
day. How about these stats for my personal server serving about 6 mail
accounts with mine being the target for nearly all the inbound spam:
Attempted mail deliveries this month: 40867
SpamCop information mails: 1305
Mail entering calculations: 39562
Total legitimate mail this month: 4142 (10.47%)
Number of attempts firewalled out: 27523 (69.57%)
Number of rejected messages this month: 6328 (16.00%)
Number of messages hitting spamtraps: 1535 (3.88%)
Total spam this month: 35386 (89.44%)
Total infected mails this month: 34 (0.09%)
Do you think my ISP would take kindly to me sending out nearly 1800 "I'm on
vacation" messages every day, all of them to addresses forged into spams?
I'd expect to have the plug pulled on my account post haste if that were
happening.
> Have you actually seen what the sender gets back?
Yes. The point being that it's the *sender* who gets it, not some innocent
3rd party whose e-mail address was forged into the spam that provoked the
OOO reply (and who's already being mailbombed by people bouncing mail back
to him/her).
- --
G. Stewart - gstewart@xxxxxxxxxxx
There are three types of people in this world:
- Those who can count
- Those who can't
-- Walter Dnes in NANAE, 2003-JUL-26.
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