Re: [vps-mail] Re: Server Software Notification List Message - updates for 09/20/2006

[Harrison Hind <hhind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Godwin,
  I read your comments a few weeks back with interest.  I'm a firm 
believer in RBLs.  I myself didn't wait for this vinstall to set up 
RBLs for my servers.  FWIW I see this as a great tool for those 
who aren't quite confident to set things up for themselves.  HOWEVER, 
those are the exact same people that could be harmed by misues of 
a dangerous tool.  I agree with you that Verio should take a little 
more care in their "featured list" of RBLs 

  It does look like Verio is taking some action in that direction.  
I noticed the following differences (omissions) in today's Server 
Notification list:

   relays.osirusoft.com -> OsiruSoft
   spammers.v6net.org -> Arbitrary black hole list (ABL)
   vox.schpider.com -> VOX DNSBL
   dun.dnsrbl.net -> Domain Name System Real-time Black List (DNSRBL)

  Glaringly absent from this list (by that I mean still apparently 
present in the vinstall) is:

   spews.relays.osirusoft.com -> SPEWS

  I never was a fan of spews in the first place.  When combined with
your comments regarding osirusoft, I wouldn't go near this one with 
a 10 foot pole.

Harrison.


On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 11:30:59AM +0200, Godwin Stewart wrote:
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> I don't know what they were smoking at Verio when they sent this out,
> but, well... Judge for yourselves:
> 
> > viaVerio Reseller Server Software Notification
> >
> > The following updates will be completed 09/06/2006 on all servers: 
> >
> > FreeBSD VPS v2:
> >
> > * Sendmail RBL
> > 
> > relays.osirusoft.com -> OsiruSoft
> > spews.relays.osirusoft.com -> SPEWS
> 
> The insclusion of these two DNSBL's in the list of those provided is
> monumental in its stupidity. Joe Jared (who ran osirusoft) was DDoS'ed
> off the Internet by spammers unhappy with his efforts to block them. He
> had to give up running the DNSBL's in order for them to relent (law
> enforcement stood back and watched while this was happening, BTW, and
> Joe was then sued by spammers for impeding their "frea speach").
> 
> This happened several years ago. Since then, all DNSBL's in the
> osirusoft.com domain have listed the entirety of IPv4 space in an
> effort to get admins who were using them to *stop* using them.
> 
> Go ahead and use these DNSBL's if you want to block 100% of the spam
> sent your way, but be prepared not to receive any ham either!
> 
> Those who really want to use SPEWS can use the l1.spews.dnsbl.sorbs.net
> and l2.spews.dnsbl.sorbs.net mirrors.
> 
> Did anybody actually wait for this new sooper-dooper whiz-bang service
> to implement DNSBL's in their sendmail configuration anyway?
> 
> - -- 
> G. Stewart - gstewart@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> genius, n:
>         A chemist who discovers a laundry additive that rhymes with
>         "bright".
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