[vps-mail] Re: [vps2] Question: Is this list archived?

[Andrew Brosnan <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Reality check!! This is a email list. A public one at that. Anyone can
join, and posts are transmitted across the internet and the world to
hundreds of people without encryption or any provisions for secrecy or
privacy. It is a *public* email list. I would never assume that anything
I write on this list would not be viewable by anyone, anywhere;
regardless of whether the list owner sets up an 'archive'. I'm surprised
that anyone wouldn't get this.


On 6/25/05 at 10:41 AM, patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Patrick Harris)
wrote:

> Hello all.
> 
> Just learned today that the Perl Code list is archived and publicly 
> searchable.  Didn't know that.  Suppose I shoulda.  Wish I had.  
> Thankfully I don't post to that list very often and when I do it's
"not 
> a big deal".  But I most certainly don't want the world at large to be 
> able to review our discussions on these lists.
> 
> So now I'd like to know if any of the provider talk lists are archived 
> and/or searchable?  Here's a copy of my comments to that list on the 
> subject:
> 
> -------------------------------------------------
> 
> This is a good discussion.  I didn't realize that our comments were 
> being posted for the outside world -- I had believed this to be a 
> private discussion list.
> 
> 1). I discuss things within these lists that I don't want my clients
to 
> be able to search and read.
> 
> 2). We discuss the specifics of our security approaches, how our VPS 
> systems work, the effectiveness of certain approaches, our 
> relationships with Verio, and common vulnerabilities within our unique 
> hosting setting.  So why wouldn't a spammer or hacker want to waste 
> their time combing through these archives??
> 
> As far as the notion that reconstituting addresses from a whopping two 
> whole headers is too much effort for someone to go through... I think 
> that's entirely misguided.  The most valuable of ANY direct marketing 
> databases (and that's what a spammer's database of email addresses is) 
> is a clean and highly targeted list.  And getting a few hundred (or 
> more) administrative contacts of technical professionals that are all 
> using the same platform and same vendor for hosting.  Well that's a 
> highly targeted list.
> 
> I think publicly archiving this list at all is a really stupid idea.  
> That's about as plain and kind as I can put it.  It has the potential 
> of undermining everything that this list stands for.
> 
> This will be my last post to this list.  I can't afford to have these 
> sorts of discussions out in the open and I most certainly can't afford 
> to leave a permanent written record laying around.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Patrick
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