Re: [vps-mail] sa-learn and outlook

[Godwin Stewart <gstewart@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:16:10 -0800, Matt Cohen <lists@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hmm, does outlook have a 'bounce' command or something so they can 
> re-send the spam email to another POP account that I can then grab to 
> use for sa-learn?  Of course, that email account will then have the 
> wrong headers for each email, so we don't want to learn his outgoing 
> server as a spam server...

The problem with Outlook is that it isn't really designed as a mail client
in the traditional sense of the term. It interfaces well with Exchange, but
not with real e-mail.

To start with, once it receives the e-mail it tosses away the headers and
only keeps the body, *after* it has preprocessed it for internal storage.
In other words, once Outlook as received the message, it's impossible to
retrieve a faithful copy of it as it was received.

> Any other suggestions on how to get an outlook-using client to 
> benefit from sa-learn?

The only way I can think of is to have a real MTA between the 'Net and the
Exchange server (this should be done anyway as a matter of course since
exposing any Microsoft software, Exchange included, directly to the 'Net is
asking for trouble). SA could then be set up to filter the mail before
passing it on to the Exchange box, with the option of passing stuff with a
score over a certain threshold straight onto sa-learn.

This kind of problem really shows up the huge divide between the Outlook/
Exchange duo and real e-mail. Now, if PHB's could be convinced that
something more expensive from a huge company is *not* necessarily what
gives the most "interoperability" (now, who used that word before?) then
you wouldn't have this problem on your hands now :)

- -- 
G. Stewart - gstewart@xxxxxxxxxxx

If money doesn't grow on trees then why do banks have branches?
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